((But my question still remains, has anyone ever really succeeded in making a perfect copy of a real live person in Poser, and if so, what was his secret.)) Wolf359's self-clone is one of the most impressive ones I've seen: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2206784 http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2333617 http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2368008 http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2404133 http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2589090

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