Alas, my rigging experience is limited to "toe in the water" stuff. I intend to get into it someday tho. One of the advantages of insects is that they don't have any "soft" bits, so no need for fall-off zones and all the trouble they cause. But I get your point:-)) Ah well, it was just a shot in the dark.. Might try modelling one myself, just to prove to myself I can't do it. (Diolma exits, stage left, mumbling something that sounds suspiciously like "here a sphere, there a sphere, everwhere a sphere, sphere") ..... Cheers Diolma