Les, Having researched it, Migal's discovery was similar, close, but no cigar. His was related to making MATs work on a prop by changing the type to actor. Same means, different ends. Here's his post from PoserPros: PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:18 am Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote Just as an aside... You can do MATS for unparented props, if you first refer to the prop as an actor in the pz2, like this: actor Sphere_1 { }