That is excellent! As is usual in the Poser world, as as pointed out above by others, a combination of a great skin texture PLUS shaders, including SSS, leads to the promised land. Obviously from your tutorial, Carrara's shader capabilites are strong. I don't see anything about the imaged-based textures in your shader tutorial, but obviously your ideas are right up the alley. Thanks for posting the link here. :::: Opera :::::