MorriganShadow, Thanks so much for the link and the quick reply! Yes, I had noticed that OpenGL didn't look much different at all. I know how to start the software renderer and I will work that direction next. Do you do your own lighting or do you use a package? I was working with Radiance Pro lights. I'd like to try the HDRI and IBL lighting sometime too. Have you seen any good tutorials for those? I also have the Brazil render engine. Ever worked with it? Suppose to be a nice one. Thanks again for your help and information! Nebula