Personally, I have GOT to say that I think the subscription idea is a good thing if it allows Poserworld and Fairywoods to stay up and provide the excellent quality that they have in the past. In fact, I don't know why they didn't go this route much sooner than this. And I certainly hope it will mean all those !@$%# ads and popups will be gone. wink, grin, nudge Hey Steve, Rena - you guys do what you gotta do. I'll be there no matter what. (And I was only half joking about the ads, guys) Kate (who knows how to turn off her cookies and javascript when necessary) ;-)