o_o no N isnt for Nudes, is it just me or does everyone think art cant have clothes? anyways, N as in Normal, poser has an N node, it outputs R G B values of the direction the normal is facing (X Y Z) while i can't find it as one of the options, i have found nx/ny/nz do it in formulas yay ;D so on that, i can program in realskin shader completely now, as well as a few other skin shaders, but they use edge blend, so need to find the formula used in edge blend to do it :)