Yep... I did use a noise bump map.. Indeed the hair will have to change in the future... Perhaps new methods for rending hair will be developed by the time Poser 5 is released... Until then, tricks of the light, clever texture/transparency maps, and post production will have to cover for this hard to mask shortcoming... I'm sure eventually someone will come up with a no effort technique for creating convincing hair... really, I think it's becoming less about what you CAN create, and more about what you choose to create... What you desire to express.. and what the story is that you want to tell... Whether you have an artistic hand becomes less a factor than whether you have an artistic eye, mind, or soul... Anyway.. in a unusually introspective mood this eve... Well... time for bed, methinks...