Thanks Billywig. I evidently missed that while I was there. I have used Steve's clothing since the beginning--because I don't know how to model and don't anticipate learning too much--I've tried and I just don't have a lot of interest in it. His things are always a great value on the CD's and certainly the freebies. I don't dl too much at Rena's except to pick up special things from her characters, but I look at it often just to enjoy it. I also use all the other sections at the 'big' site, so I certainly feel that I would be getting my money's worth even without the extras offered. I agree, Steve and Rena have been at the forefront of keeping things free, but real life does intrude as Rena said in another post. Things have changed online everywhere and will continue to do so. For those of us that have been around since before the WWW, changes don't surprise me at all. The free part, I suspect, will continue to be the help, advice and support that we will get from the Poserworld folks. Marque, don't feel in the minority--I'm beyond the boomer age group too S. Diane