I completely agree with you. That cajomi tutorial is spectacular and continues to be very helpful to me too. An update would be welcome - from anyone for that matter! By the way, Johannes is working on a terrain editor of some sort on his own it seems. It will be great to see what he comes up with. With his new terrain editor and the procedurals and displacement functions in Carrara 5, we'll have it ALL!...almost. I just hope there will soon be some way to properly and intuitively scale and orient architectural elements (models, entities, group elements and etc.) in relation to each other and to that tiny little workbox in Carrara. Those are the biggest hang-ups for me. For the moment I'm exporting either landscape bitmaps or masssive file size poly models from Carrara back into Cinema 4D to make some architectural scenes. I can do that in many terrain editors, but I'm trying to give Carrara a good go at it. I'd really prefer to render my scenes in C5 Pro. but I can't get my head around trying to assemble them there. wb