No, thank you Quest for bringing up this wonderful topic for us to all digest and extrapolate. We also all know where you stand on this matter. I actually do find Vasquez and Ang's viewpoints interesting, though, and feel very similar in many ways. Humankind stems from atrocities and horrific acts of violence, but that's hopefully not where we are going. Think of it on a long-term scale as humanity's growing pains, but instead of the cells aching it's us, the individual people. Just perspective, and of course it doesn't make anything feel better...?