you are all mad, that's why I say here. Lolllll... SR, thanks I keep that in mind next time. Andreas, what re you like but nice one the shot looks so different, thanks. Margana, thank you, the light was very strong but after a few attempts I got there, I think. Anyway, I will not put it in the gallery and I appreciate all your kind comments. Well goto to go, it's 4:30 am and I've a 5 million fish production plan to draw up by 7:30, YAWN....... Steve