Forum: Bryce


Subject: OT...Child sexual abusers registry (US only), a must have website

Quest opened this issue on Mar 02, 2006 ยท 62 posts


Quest posted Tue, 07 March 2006 at 11:06 PM

Vasquez, Inferno Darkness, like I said above there is no debate here, this registry is already available in 88% (44 out of 50) states in the US. Within weeks of little Megan Kankas death, over 200,000 signatures were gathered demanding New Jersey pass "Megan's Law; and in 1994, a FEDERAL crime measure provided similar provisions for the protection of COMMUNITIES.

"Megan's Law" requires states to notify law enforcement officials and the COMMUNITY when a convicted sex offender moves into the area.

"Megan's Law" passed in the HOUSE early in May by an impressive and overwhelming vote of 418 to ZERO (thats a goose-egg, zero, zip, nada). President Clinton (a democrat not a republican) signed the legislation on May 17, 1996. Not that were debating amongst ourselves if whether or not for the registry to be put into law, IT ALREADY IS THE LAW.

Vasquez, your concern and phobic shrill to stop this thread is much ado over nothing. Furthermore, you offer no background understanding of the subject. If we stopped the dissemination of knowledge every time people like you didnt like or didnt understand something, wed still be in the middle ages.

I am amazed how ppl here at renderosity are replying to Quest's childish answers and to this dreadful thread with calm and self control. It's really a great forum.

I am astonished how some ppl can accept so naturally the "public service" offered by that site.

Fear generates fear that generates violence.
Do you really want to life with the fear of having a potential former sex-abuser, near your home?

Let me just clarify a few things for you, first, Im not asking any question, particularly childish ones, Ive stated what needed to be stated and thats it, no debate required.

Secondly, people accept naturally the public service because it is a public service set forth by our government as such. This is a law that the majority of the people of this country wanted and got.

Thirdly, you are totally off your mark when you insinuate that the registry is fear and that this fear will generate violence. This is the same argument that the remaining 12% of the country (Inferno Darknesss homies) and the ACLU like to brandish in opposition to this law but it has no teeth based in fact. The fact is that the law comes with stiff penalties and a zero tolerance attitude toward vigilantism. Yes, theres been a few cases and as it turns out, at least one vigilante was shot and killed by the police. Also, the law outlines the fact that the community can be proactive in that once they know who the offenders are, they can notify the authorities when suspicious behavior first starts to materialize such as seeing offenders hanging around school grounds or seeing offenders conversing with children. According to the site there are 425 sex offenders living in my immediate area and try as hard as I could, I found no documented attempts at vigilantism against sexual offenders in my area. Go figure, youd think I could have a field day popping perverts.

Fourthly and lastly, Inferno Darkness you can take heed here also, if you live in fear, it is only because you allow yourself to do so. Not knowing is fear. Being kept in the dark, like mushrooms away from illumination and feeding on BS is what ignorance and fear reaps. I would much more prefer to know who my enemies are and who the enemies of my family are so that I can be prepared and form a plan in order to protect my family and be able to point out to my family who to look out for. To tell children that if: this person talks to you, do not talk back but come and tell me immediately. Otherwise, your children will not know and they WILL BE AT RISK despite what others here might think! From a famous Arabian proverb: HOLD YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE, BUT HOLD YOUR ENEMIES CLOSER.

Fifthly, if youre not familiar with or a student of American politics and law then you should try to adhere to the cautions provided in the subject (US only) meaning that the subject matter pertained to US matters. Not that everyone else was exempt. Students of history, anthropology, sociology, criminology, philosophy, logistics, and law are welcomed. As are those that have honest questions.

As with the 12% of the country and the ACLU (American Communist Lawyers Union: my acronym for them), you will get people who live in La-La land who think these perves deserve a chance. Then there are those that take this simplistic ideology that all of this information only leads to victimization of the masses for some strange reason. I can only say that these people are nae and gullible almost in the extreme. Fortify yourselves with knowledge and the truth.

I applaud the law that allows me, even if I didnt have children, to watch out for yours. And those with children should be thankful for people like that. Since not everyone is privileged to have children. Left up to me, once proven guilty I would like incarceration for these animalistic, sadistic predators for life without parole since theres a very high recidivism rate (re-arrest for the same crime multiple times). But that not being the present option, I would settle for Jessicas Law, which is gaining momentum in several states, which offer a MINIMUM of 25 years with a MAXIMUM of life on a first offense. For those who get flustered, they still have three appeals.

We are all intelligent enough to understand that this registry is not the perfect solution to the problem. That yes, it must be tempered but tempered more to the protection of the community rather than the felon. We fully understand that not all sexual offenders are listed since firstly, we cannot know who future offenders will be and where will they live. And secondly that often the list is flawed because some offenders use phony names and addresses. To this I personally say, the perpetrators that resort to this in such a felony, that their probation should be immediately revoked and their prior time reinstated plus added time for having not followed protocol. But we have a ways to go yet with this. But its a start in the right direction.

While we struggle to find that magic, perfect solution to the problem of child sexual predators and sexual offenders in general, the question becomes: What do we do in the meantime? How much human suffering, how much psychological damage, how many lost innocents can society take? When does enough become enough? The bigger question in moral terms comes in the form of: Does the good outweigh the bad to society? To this end, I must say, and so has 88% of my fellow Americans that the institution of the registry and Megans Law does outweigh the bad given that the felons in it have been through the judicial system and have been found guilty by a jury of their peers as put forth by the law of the land.

I do not forget, that there is that far a few situation when the innocent are sent to jail unjustly but this, for now, is a separate and in the total scale of things a smaller topic.