Forum: Bryce


Subject: OT...Child sexual abusers registry (US only), a must have website

Quest opened this issue on Mar 02, 2006 ยท 62 posts


Quest posted Wed, 08 March 2006 at 6:07 PM

Yes, Mizrael its putting the communities eyes squarely on the perpetrator. The perp is marked and everyone is keeping track of him.

Infernal, inferno both refers to hell. You keep changing your username it seems almost as often as you change your socks and its difficult to keep track of those who keep trying to go incognito for whatever reasons.

Well it certainly took you awhile to concoct that twisting of all our words, Quest.

LOLyou obviously are suffering under the delusion that somehow my time is indebted to you. That somehow Im here to cater to your slanted views and hyperboles. Actually I wasnt even intending to reply further to this thread after post 34 when I said I was done. Thats when you started your insensitive ranting about some, off the wall, clueless convoluted conspiracy theory of victimizing the world. You seem to be living in a world of moral relativism and you dont even know it. But the laughable thing of it is that you offer no justification for what youre saying. No proof, no documentation no nothing just lip service. The little information you do provide is totally off the wall and flat out wrong and as contorted as your soapbox. Then you speak of it as if it were a matter of fact.

My main point was that this entire thread merely spreads useless fear, not knowledge, of the "situation".

At least, unlike yourself, Im not spreading disinformation and hot air. Further, I will bet you money to donuts that anyone reading this thread will walk away better informed about child sex abuse, statistics on sex abuse, Magens Law, Jessicas Law and know where to go to get information on sex offenders in their neighborhood if thats what they want. You certainly didnt provide that information. In fact, you provided no facts.

From now on, every state in the country will be required by law to tell a community when a dangerous sexual predator enters its midst. We respect peoples rights, but today America proclaims there is no greater right than a parents right to raise a child in safety and love. Today America warns: If you dare to prey on our children, the law will follow you wherever you go, state to state, town to town. Today, America circles the wagon around our children. MEGANS LAW WILL PROTECT TENS OF MILLIONS OF FAMILIES FROM THE DREAD OF WHAT THEY DO NOT KNOW. It will give peace of mind to our parents.

President Clinton (1996) in the Bill signing ceremony for Megans Law) My uppercase.

This notification is not intended to increase fear, rather it is Our belief that an informed public is a safer public

Matson and Lieb(1996b: 22; Appendix 1)
Matson and Liebs (1996: 6) review of Megans Law across fifty states

Community Notification: Megans Law allows the States discretion to establish criteria for disclosure, but compels them to make private and personal information on registered sex offenders available to the public.

Community notification:

Assists law enforcement in investigations;

Establishes legal grounds to hold known offenders;

Deters sex offenders from committing new offenses;

Offers citizens information they can use to protect children from victimization.

Megans Law

"For too long children have mercilessly died at the hands of vicious child predators - Megan Kanka, Sara Anne Wood, My Ly Nghiem and Polly Klaas, Parents will finally have this crucial information they need to protect their children from society's sickest individuals. Megan's Law is a forceful, effective tool parents and law enforcement can use to help prevent future tragedies."

Senate Deputy Majority Leader Dean Skelos

"Too many families have suffered as a result of the fiendish actions of convicted sex offenders. By creating a sex offender registry, we are giving law enforcement an additional tool to help solve these violent and brutal crimes - and protecting other children from becoming victims, With Megan's Law now on the books, we can now provide communities with vital information that will help to spare families from unspeakable horrors and shield our most vulnerable citizens."

NYS Attorney General Vacco

"Our efforts to enact Megan's Law were aimed at protecting the safety of innocent children by keeping close watch over convicted criminals who would prey on them,"

Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno

ID: The basic rule is this : always support strength, never support weakness.

As if we need advice from the likes of you. Knowledge is strength and an informed united community makes us stronger yet.

The most basic intended consequence of notification is to open eyes. Information
exchange within the community is seen, perhaps above all, as a process of knowing
thine enemy. The police surveillance apparatus is much expanded through informal
public scrutiny, or as Bedarf (1995) puts it, under hundreds of watchful eyes it is
more difficult for a sex offender to escape into anonymity.

Does Megans Law Work? A Theory-Driven Systematic Review
Ray Pawson
ESRC UK Centre for Evidence Based Policy and Practice
Queen Mary University of London

ID: So do you believe that people who don't know the material makeup of the SUN live in extreme fear of it? Nobody knows, so we're all afraid of it?

Now youre playing with semantics and BS rhetoric. Whats the matter, you have nothing useful to contribute besides this dribble? You can learn something if you read the quotations above from prominent personages in our society.

ID: Do you think that knowing where the sex offenders that actually got caught live will change anything?

This must be a trick question, right? You must be living in a vacuum if you dont know that many activist groups, community watch groups, schools boards, school busing companies, zoning boards and committees have changed their schedules, have instituted buffer zones, and proximity zone limits in different parts of the country. In some areas sex offenders are not allowed to live closer than 2500 feet from schools, parks and any areas frequented by children. Obviously this is only a small example of positive change.

ID: Fact is, for every sex-offender they show there are ten or twenty more that they don't show, maybe a thousand.

There you go again pretending to be talking facts when you really dont know what youre talking about.

Whilst compliance rates initially seem to be low following the enactment of
state registers, evidence from Washington suggests that compliance rates
improve as offenders become better acquainted with the new law. Initial rates
in 1990 of 57% increased to 76% in 1991 and were over 80% in 1992

(Washington Institute for Public Policy, 1994),

Police sayIt's estimated that one in five don't (register).
Paula Zahn anchor CNN News April 21, 2005
Parenthesis and its content added by me to provide concise context.

CNN Transcripts

ten or twentymaybe a thousandreally? What comic book are you getting your sources from? Some quick averaging math: There are approximately 450,000 sex offenders in the US. Approx. 1 in 5 = 20% (1992 statistics) dont register. 450,000 x 20% = 90,000. In 50 states means that on average 1,800 unregistered offenders are scattered per state and you think theyre all up the block from you?

Like I said, this is not a debate, the law is in place in all 50 states bar none. How each individual state handles the registry is another matter. I offered this site as a site, which deals with sexual offenders on a national level. Each state has its own form of the registry. Its there to be used free of charge by the people. This is a tool to be used. Think of it the same way as you would when you inform and arm yourself with knowledge when you get ill to better combat a disease. Sexual predators are a blight on our society and there is no more a loathed and reviled creature.