Yeah I know the p4 isn't the best for rendering. but you can't use dual processors with the AMD and I really like that option for working with max. I also use my machine for gaming and hear of more problems with the Athlon and games . I also have a couple of other machines to model on while I'm rendering so a few extra minutes or hours really isn't that big of deal to me. I did try that scene 46 seconds. That's kind of a cool program :) I'll have to look into it.