That is the thing!! I NEVER EVER EVER use Open GL! ALWAYS WIRE FRAME! That is what is so frustrating....and FYI I just uploaded the problem vue render in my gallery, where I made comments on the creation of it so you can see what prompted this thread. I could never use Open GL so wire frame is not it... I suppose it is just an individual thing depending so much on the systems, from monitor to ram, etc... I have a 64 bit system AMD...a 3+ gig cpu and 2 gigs of ram, high end COMPATIBLE video card...what more could vue want?? :/ I just thought I had figured out a reason, but maybe not...thanks for all the input...

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!