Funny, I checked that box way back when I started using Wings because someone told me that it was important to have the box checked or I wouldn't be able to export in a form that Poser would handle right [at that time I was doing just props so groups weren't needed, just materials] ... well, I'll give it a try, maybe the person who told me to check it was actually wrong [heh] learning software can be quite a challenge at times ... thanks for the suggestion.