You're on a Mac. Well...that could be half the trouble there lol..... Don't worry...jje had this issue too. Couldn't figure out why but a second helping resaved worked. Vue is so wierd sometimes and sometimes there is no reasoning why.... Why would saving in 5.09 help? Because I built SeaVue in Vue 4. So resaving saves with all the current quirks :)and makes it better. Whale mail is like...whale mail. You can send huge stuff. Again, don't worry. Once you get the notice all you have to do is download it. Real quick. As my email back to you states though...that won't be till 1 pm tomorrow when I go back to work. (I only have dialup at home). Also if anyone else out there needs a fresh copy..let me know. See ya tomorrow Lorne..... M