Having witnessed the Charles River debacle of the P# Handbooks (case studies in worthlessness that approach parody), I hesitated to purchase Denise Tyler's Poser book when I discovered they were the publisher. (It turns out to be a good book for beginners and, as advertised, useful for learning the new stuff.) The compliants here about the C5 Handbook inspire a wave of deja vue. I found the reference manual very useful after I got over the initial miff of having to purchase it separately (THAT should have been in the product description!), and based on what I'm reading here, I won't purchase the C5 Handbook. Charles River strikes me as a less-than-honorable publishing house, and I will continue to approach their books with suspicion. M