" I second this: "don't be worried over Irina". I got Steph 3 just to get Irina." thats exactly what bothers me though. its a shame people had to buy SP3 when V3 was/is free. when i started work on Irina V3 cost $30, same as SP3. had i known Daz would make her free id have created the pack for V3 instead. the same thing happened with the mil girls. if i recall the price went up (or the sale was over) after i finished Nia. i think from now on i will stick with V3/M3/A3. and if poser's rigging is updated then i will 100% focus on the default poser people. especially if V4 is a subdivided V3 - V3 is more than high enough res already.