cherokee, that first post was so over the top, so totally devoid of any factual information, so perjoritive, and the poster so glaringly absent from discussion, it looks like a troll, smells like a troll. An honest post against the model would have given some facts or interacted. It just happens that some people like to post immature flaming trash posts on something they know others value, then watch for fun while people argue and object. It's on the level of an arsonist that starts fires for 'kicks' and hangs around to watch. Let the poster come back and argue intelligently or even rant intelligently if he/she is no troll. ::::: Opera :::::