Say you ain't kidding this SITE all together is far friendlier than others...I just got Adobe Premiere a few months back and let me tell you their forums suck! First off I couldn't navigate them....I would post and then spend an eternity trying to locate my post and any responses once I'd come back to check. Everyone was way too techie and frankly I'm a newbie to the program...so I just started reading the manual and said to heck with that place! Anyhow...I had no idea there was a bryce funstuff section! I'm so there! PAN~