Uh oh...I must be missing something here. I'm working with a copy of Bryce 5...the one before DAZ bought it. All I know is that I've been having more damn fun with it than I probably should. I can render in a matter of hours what would take me several weeks to paint on canvas, and that's a big plus in my book. I can even ship roughs to a client in under an hour if need be for them to okay or reject. To my way of thinking, it all depends on just exactly what you want to do with it and how fussy you really want to get. All I can say is that it works for me, and I'm a pretty demanding fellow.