again thx for all the comments. will try the metaballs. First i cant make humans nor will i try. Its a cross with blood and nails on it. Like i said Jesus will not be in any of my images. Y? because everyone has their own image of him. (he is not blonde and blued, sry catholics). And i dont want hate mail about representing Jesus wrongly. I never learnt how to use wing 3d. Tried it and failed badly. But hey i'll try again. Keep comenting if u want. But i think i have enough stuff to get me going atleast. Also wut sky would make the scene look very bleak and dark?