I'm reading about colour theory now. Thanks sharkrey! From your perspective, Keith, this is one horrible art class. Very good point! What good is it to have a fractal art hobby, and not want to learn? Of course if you are here on a social level, and are here to make fractal images, and forget about art, then i can see people taking offence. Once again i have gotten myself into a discussion that will never be solved on a whole. we can only try to do better individually, and encourage good art. Michael