replay to dlk30341 quote "3d software people do the same ;)Ie Bryce/Vue/Max/LW etc etc.....people stand by their software no matter how flawed or old it maybe be" thats why i use carrara, beause i started 3d way back in the day of ray dream studio 5.5, and im to lazy to learn a new platform (other than poser, because ive been using that from version 2)