Ouch, organica cost that much and you had that much trouble with it. Softy3D Is going to cost me less than I paid for either vicki or Mike (And I bought them on sale) Oh and another cool thing about softy is that you can give it a though testing before you register & SAVE THINGS THAT YOU MAKE in .sft format. put together a bunch of stuff first and then register when you are ready to export them.