Wow, sorry I touched a nerve there :) Does anyone else think that was a bit over the top ? I'm a Nazi.. LOL This is a interesting topic, but I don't think that was called for. What I was saying (which obviously didn't come across), is that if Curious labs via Anthony are trying to stop piracy to increase their sales, then I don't see how it will work. At the end of the day Curious's owners look at the bottom line, they are not going to be on a "holy search" to purge the world of pirates. They are trying to produce a good product and sell it. Hunting down pirates who are going to get their copy of poser and stick it on a cd on the shelf isn't going to make any difference to the bottom line, neither is removing the copy from the "graphics guru" who has every bit of software he can find loaded. There is no chance that they will buy the software. Sure we should do everything that can be done to stop Warez trading, but at the moment how is that possible ? For every new bit of copy protection the pirates seem to find a way around it and so it goes on. I'd love to see the day when pirate software was not available, software would be much cheaper for everyone. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Curious should be the first to make a real stand. How about everyone spend half a hour looking for a pirate copy of poser/pro pack ? I'm sure the sales will sky rocket. cya Derik