SOoooooooooory--a turtleneck. I tried really hard to do a TN from the top of the catsuit, but it just looked terrible-- I put a slight shadow under the 'roll', but it just didn't cut it. It needs a 'roll' around the top. Here's the P4 TN in back and the Mike catsuit top in the front so you see what I mean. I also don't like the skin tight look of the catsuit for a sweater type thing. Ah, well, maybe in the next set of clothes--I also need to go look at PhilC's things again. Diane