hey i just read through the post and i think you are all right, i personally use poser to generate better conversion skills and to train myself in moving rigs within mesh but think obout it, what is art trully good for? why do we all do it? art stirrs your soul no matter what ppl say wheather its misunderstood or neither benificery to them or anyone else. art is here because ppl have passion to say and create what ever they please, if we dont look at painting art but other forms once gullivers travels was sattire now its read to ppls childeren, michelangelo painted the sisteen chapel 3 times (i think) now if that doesnt make a example then what does. all im trying to say is that by arguing and fighting you are all proving yourselfs as artists not just through your work but through your soul and passion for the subject. cant we all just get along and at least agree on one thing.... we care enough to fight for our work IRRIGARDLESS of what medium. ps happy rendering = P