You might want to actually READ what DogFace was saying. The (somewhat sarcastic I'm sure) point he was making was the 'CREATORS or AUTHORS' join a club that promotes 'restriction free' use, i.e. use an item for both personal or commercial use. No blackmail, no 'join our club or you can't use it' etc. etc. Personally, while I'm not joining any such group, YES, anyone who downloads one of my characters can use it for personal or commercial use. I'll say this again, when I upload something to freestuff, it's a gift. Like a set of paints, use them to create what you want, your renders are YOUR work, to do with as you wish. I didn't make your render, so if you sell it, I don't feel the need to take part of your sales. I'm capable of using my tools and my own characters to render and try to sell images or animations myself, if I want to go that route. Or I could, and I might in the future, sell my characters. All I ask is that you not distribute the actual characters without permission. Why not? First, because, that's part of my reward for creating this stuff. Although I may not be as good as some of our more talented creators, I do put a lot of work into creating this stuff, and I'd like people to come to me (through the freestuff sections or my website or Capsces webite). Secondly, most of my stuff is modified Poser 4 figures, and I don't want to see Daz get hurt if someone chooses to distribute one of my figures unencoded. That's how I choose to operate. As for anyone else, do what you like, put as many restrictions in your downloads as you want. If people don't like them, they don't have to download them. It's your perogative, but don't be all outraged if people bitch about not being able to use your stuff- bitching is their perogative! :) Regards- Lemurtek