Gee I just thought talking about this would be fun - but boy have I learned alot from this thread! Already downloaded - Poserman / 3DELIGHT - off to experiment. Thanx stewer Searched out Englishbob's stuff, had not been to morphography before - good Tutorials - I'm very interested in this conforming/dynamic hybrids stuff - but my total tailoring experience is limited. Thanx svdl even found this interesting discussion link - http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2228908 And THANX everybody here - this is the BEST forum ever! JP