PJF is right, the middle and high end package are aimed at people who will earn money using them. Buying a $3000 problem package isn't a problem if you know that you'll realize a project with it that'll bring you an income of $6000 already the first month. That's an investment, that's all. Surely Discreet, Softimage or Alias are not worried by the home user piracy, the only important thing for them is that the professional users pay for the product because their sale previsions are based on this public. If they really wanted to earn money with the home user, they could easily sell a second version of their product at a very low price but with a special license with restriction in use (Microsoft made it with a complete version of Visual C++ sold at a very low price, the only limit was that you hadn't the right to distribute a soft made with it). If one day they do that, THEN, you'll really start to harm them as a private user when using a warezed Max or Maya, till then... For Poser, it's also true that the situation is very different, with a $200 price, it's clear that the product is as much for the home user and for the professional user and piracy do harm them to a certain extent, but it also bring them customers, I for exemple discoverd Poser by a friend who had a warezed copy (I used, a warezed copy during 2 monthes before to buy it - By the way, before you call me a NAZI have a look at my real name) and anyway, there's a lot of people who download softs that would never buy them if they hadn't them for free For now I really think the most important is to explain to the people we know that REALLY use warez they REALLY could afford they're doing something with more consequence than they believe, open their eyes, that's all. And above all, keep the things at their real place (After World War II my family was 23 times smaller than in 1936, that was what the NAZI did, not to compare with some piracy...) Aaron Perlmann