And voila, it is suddenly possible to raise your arms further above your head. So, if you are rigging a character, don't look at what the previous characters could or couldn't do. Get a mirror, stand in front of it, as naked as possible, and move slowly. Look at what your bones do. Look at what their real limits of movement are. Some other simple experiments. Turn your head from left to right. Now turn your upper neck section from left to right. Now turn your lower neck section from left to right. Huh???? You can't do any of those except turn your head from left to right, so why can Poser figures do these things? Shouldn't the neck sections be ERC controlled from the head dials?

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