Thanks Poppi! I will go looking for these. You don't happen to have URL's for Marble Clay do you? Also, I take it you don't make use of any of the more popular commercial packages (3d Studio, Ray Dream, etc). Is that because you find them to be overkill for your needs? If the ones you list are easy to use and will handle my limited modeling needs for Poser then that would be OUTSTANDING! I'd love to NOT have to pay 1500 bones for 3d Studio to get this complicated monster package, 98% of which I would never use. Any thoughts?