I, for one, STRONGLY disagree with this! The Product forum is for more than just Poser products and shouldn't be used as another Poser Forum. On this site there is already, this forum for General Poser discussions, a catagory that I feel covers freebies. If you want to talk about the program there already is a Poser Technical forum and a Poser Python forum. If you want to cut down on bandwith start moving all technical discussions the the appropriate forum and all python discussions to teh forum set up for that. Actually ist only fair to move those discussions as rapidly as "commercials" are moved to the Product showcase. mike