I know he didn't steal the idea of the graphical user interface. That's why I wrote it thus: 'stole'. Microsoft didn't steal it either. They just copied it. That's like saying Ford stole the idea of using a 4 step internal combustion engine in an automobile from Daimler. While I'm convinced that Microsoft are a dodgy outfit; I'm unconvinced that Apple are any different. I'm certainly not taking willf's comment seriously. But it has to be said that Appleism is a religion; and you know how I feel about religion. ;-)