o that is nice really nice pic m8 so really i see every ones point now in some pics i can see it looks like there is a 2nd skin but in other pics like the one above you can not tell at all as it is with both clother and normal that is a nice pic right i think i have made my mind up ill buy clother if i dont like it in some time what can i say at least you all helped me out by telling me what is what i must say i am very bad a dynamics my cloths are very poor and fall to the floor sometimes im lucky lol and they dont but 9 times out of 10 they do so this for me would be very good for jeans and tops or pantie pose,s anyway thanks guys and ladys