Quote - " When I come here, that is exactly what it is like...this forum and everything attached to it, moves slower than molasses on a 100 degree day in Texas. I think I shall go play with bryce...and use Daz, which gives me black renders and maybe upload the snake into poser...which will no doubt cause my PSP to freeze, then I will have to reboot, in the meantime, Comcast is conspiring against me and cutting cables all over town just to piss me off. Ooooh, Im miserable. eh? :tongue1: "

i know what is the problem with the black renders on Daz. You need to go into Render settings and not use the OpenGL render. In the General tab of the render seetings slide the speed fully over to the right then in the Advance tab make sure the "Use OpenGL Shader(GLSL) is set on 8, then have the "Use Software - 3DeLight" selected. I had the same problem a few months back ans was told to use those settings.

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