Thanks everyone. I didn't think of Vue4Pro. I have that and will use it. I primarly want some of my old work and the landscapes to transfer to Carrara 5 Pro. I am not too good with the terranes in carrara yet. Seems kind of strange to go backward tho. Carrara is a better product for my needs and handles imports and exports very well including all poser files even props and cr2 files. I won't upgrade Vue.