Contest was your baby so its location is your call. I dont bail on pals so ill be here for the duration to do my part of the judging. Contest will still be fun, I just wish the new forums (IMO) didnt suck groin. Can you imagine how nice it would have been to have one page for the entries, be able to see them all full size, ablbeit 200KB max res, on one page to scoll along and compare, with gallery links to the full res versions? Im listening to Jethro Tull's "Living in the Past" and Im friggin weeping dude. I cant even recognize what was my favorite spot on the net anymore. Anyhow, my beta copy of the scimitar has given me an inspiration for a render so that should keep me from griping about the forums for a short while. Ill give you first preview!