I will work on Obi Wan and Qui Gon Jinn for future characters and posts. I was having a big problem with Maul's boots (props) preserving the bend characteristics when parented to the foot. Also, for some reason Poser would forget that they were supposed to be parented to the feet respectively any time I reopened the pz3 file, or added the .cr2, though both files were saved with the proper heirarchy. I solved this by adding the boots to the character .obj mesh as a replacement for the shins, and that is working beautifully. I am just compiling a few more poses, and facial expressions, and then I will zip up and post. This character is based on a Poser3 model, and texture template, so the only thing that Poser3 users will not get as a feature with Darth, is the native transparency effects from the lightsaber. The rest should work fine in both P3 and P4. I will probably have this totally completed by this weekend. Communion