I am reminded of the immoral words of Robin Williams who so appropriately stated that "There's no place like Rome! there's no place like Rome! There's no place like Rome!" Coding of any sort is hard to get right; it takes a long time to make even small changes. I'm looking forward to what Renderosity's gonna look like in a month or so. I'm also looking forward to taking advantage of att's $12.99 DSL (I'm paying more than that now for dial-up.) I'm also looking forward to the day W is out AND HILLARY is in. Patience my friends; all things come to "He Who Waits". -TJ (an old T-shirt of mine read: "patience my (beep!) I'm gonna kill something!! (beep-beep)")