I gave up on Poser several times in two years then finally a light went off and I actually had the courage to post something...that's back when I was working with Koshini, I thought she and Ichiro were the only models I could "understand" enough to use and thought I'd be stuck with it forever. The tutorials here helped, but the free stuff is where I really learned, I would see how what made it do A and how I could then use that applied task to get B. I didn't post my first thing until 2002 and have been taking baby steps...but stuff is coming out more and more the way I think it will when I start...sometimes dare I say it even better. Persistance and Patience!