JK: Well, at least you made me laugh after reading the first line. Yes, that's pretty much the conclusion I have come to. I have had a few people CLAIM to have successfully used the WD in the past, but either never produced any proof, or posted a really crummy animation. I know how to animate ... unfortunately, walking/running is just about the hardest thing you could possibly try to animate ... IMHO. Also, I'm in the process of making a full-length featurette (we're in pre-prod now with a few rough-cuts done, the script was a year and a half in the making) and so "hand-animating" every jog, run and walk is out of the question. I have LifeForms now, but getting a Poser compatible bone character out of it is almost as frustrating as WD. Thanks for your "support" ;-) -Tim