Well,Varian, that was bloodsong who said that. Mike actually agrees with Axe on this one. ;) I can't explain it though, but I don't think I've ever seen it happen in Vue 3. Tell you what I would do, is to make a copy of it and intertwine the two together, and then you could lose the spherical appearance. See, it looks that way because in actuality it *IS* mapped (more or less) to a primitive-shaped object. Vue plants get their appearance from their applied materials, and not so much from zillions of polygons in the shape of leaves, which is a *GOOD* thing actually, since it keeps the polygon count *waaaaay* down. See in the picture? That's the Vue 3 plum tree on the left, and an exact duplicate of it on the right, only the one on the right has just a solid gray color applied to it, so you can see that in actuality the "leaves" are little more than curved planes. So, I don't think there's really anything you could do about it, short of doing as I suggested and add another one to break it all up some. And of course, Varian's idea of rotating it might actually be the better solution, rather than recruiting new polygons into action. BTW, that *IS* a very cool picture there, and I agree with Varian--- looking forward to seeing what you come up with in the future. :) --Mike (who just realized he can place *italics* in messages.. ;)