xantor, this is what I get and then I try to use a wave deformer to get it more "wrinkled up" and less uniform but what I wish I could do is get some folds so it doesn't look ironed flat to the floor. I also bend and twist the different body parts so you are say looking into a sleeve that crosses the body, etc. but what I want is what  EdW has!!! I just don't have the skill!