but  does it involve animation or ?? .:P cuz i suck at that .lol.  but im good at  makin  v3 's faces look  varied etc.. and pleenty of ideas:) bthw.. since i  cant buy stuff i want yet, i made a scene in bryce 5.5.  and  im using ds :(yup) to  export my figures to it) . im trying that in poser 5 as well:P:)   again, thnx ,ghelmer. cool pics!:)