Art is hard to define - but after the amount of work and care that gets put into some of these textures I'd say they deserve recognition in their own right. Symphony's textures, for example, are exquisite - if you look at them flat you can see the care and detail used to make them. Same goes for Renapd's work. I've made scads of textures and I hope that some of them qualify as art. :) I know that at least one of my wall textures was used in an award winning pic - with just a character posed in front of it. If I hadn't spent all that time getting the texture, bump, specularity and transmap just right - the picture would have been Yet Another (TM) character study on black. With my work and the work on the figure it was good enough to hit print. (and boy was I startled to see it in a magazine rack!) Is that art or craftsmanship? hard to say. But I applaud your work anyway :) just my humble .02 :) Lyrra