They're staying very hush-hush about Vue 4. I'm aware of a few people who are beta testing it right now, and have been doing so for at least a month, but nobody's talking. Speculation and rumors have it at becoming available anywhere between sometime in April and the end of Summer. I actually even went so far as to email Lynn Fredricks and ask him about it, but he's not talking either. That I can understand, because the announcement that the new version is about to come out could effectively hurt new sales of Vue 3.1. Oh well, I've tried; I gues we just have to wait and see, but I'm ready for it! If they fix nothing else other than the Blue Gunk, I'll be happy. Well, that and the way that Vue likes to screw around with the materials in the material summary box. And I'm hoping Vue 4 has a whole slew of new types of plants.